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Hackers breach Electronic Arts, stealing game source code and tools

Hackers breach Electronic Arts, stealing game source code and tools

r3ap4r

Not by me, but a quote from the internet: "The hackers ignored the NHL series just like EA has for the past decade."


jaegerknob

Literally could put fifa or madden and still be relevant


MackaDingo

Hold it to ransom until all gambling/microtransactions are removed from all current and future games permanently


_oohshiny

Unless they deleted it (and all backups) off EA's servers, EA still has it.


GameStunts

/u/MackaDingo most likely means ransom in the sense of "Give us money or we'll release your source code to the public" kind of thing. When we play games like Battlefield, we're playing a compiled piece of code, and there generally isn't an easy way to back engineer it to see how it's made. Like a chocolate bar off the shelf, you know it's a sweet, but it would take a lot of work to back engineer how and what it's made of. If EA games had source code out in public, it would allow hackers to circumvent custom hacking tool detections, produce cheats for games, maybe even... *gasps*... circumvent micro-transactions 0.o Basically this is the secret sauce, and they don't want anyone to know the recipe.


_oohshiny

> most likely means ransom in the sense of "Give us money or we'll release your source code to the public" kind of thing. Sure, but I've seen jokes along the lines of "Sell it back to them in the form of lootboxes 1GB a time", implying EA have *lost* the code and need to pay to get it back. "Ransom" implies release of goods, persons or (encrypted and unavailable) data in exchange for money. Non-release of data, as in this case, would fall under "blackmail". > If EA games had source code out in public, it would allow hackers to circumvent custom hacking tool detections, produce cheats for games, maybe even... gasps... circumvent micro-transactions 0.o An interesting thought. Does the leak include their build systems, engine tools etc? That would let someone produce a copy of (whatever the game was) minus the usual authentication / copy protection mechanisms.


GameStunts

> An interesting thought. Does the leak include their build systems, engine tools etc? That would let someone produce a copy of (whatever the game was) minus the usual authentication / copy protection mechanisms. Yes this is also a very real possibility.


PineappleUnderDeNile

> Does the leak include their build systems, engine tools etc? Apparently at least some; they got the whole Frostbite engine and some SDKs. I'd really like to see a complete list of what all they got.


BushDidN0thingWr0ng

Games made by EA are likely written C++ and scripted with Lua. Unlike Java code and other interpreted languages, decompiling would produce assembly code. While not entirely useful, someone skilled in reading assembly could piece together the code and rewrite it in C/C++. Companies that work in software see this as an acceptable risk, because games have literally 1000s of lines of code so reverse engineering would take ages. The real risk with source code to these companies isn't cheats, circumventing mtx, or even piracy. It's a sneaky indie dev looking to get a major headstart on a competing product.


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AllegedAdult69haha

Sweet! Might mean we get some cool mods for EA titles


Gynther477

With these hackers current track record, not likely. They often want people to pay for the files and they say they'll donate to charity and stuff. Atleast we haven't seen any substantial mod tools be made after the cyberpunk leak for example.


PineappleUnderDeNile

Yeah, I was kinda hoping the same thing, but apparently they're just trying to sell the whole bundle to a single bidder. Which is fairly standard for this sort of thing; the data is more valuable if they can sell exclusive access. I get it. People don't usually turn to such high-risk ways of making money if they have other viable options, so they probably really need the money.


ice_dune

I don't see how it is. If EA can prove someone is using their source code they can sue. Hence how Too Human was literally removed from stores after epic proved they used unreal engine source code In a similar vein, projects like dolphin emulator had to kick people out of the project when it appeared they were a former Wii developer with insider knowledge cause they could get sued by Nintendo. I don't really know who wants this source code


Nogarda

In the same vein as when CDPR got hacked and source code stolen. What are they gonna do? Threaten to fix it?


catstroker69

Does this mean better mods will be possible?


PineappleUnderDeNile

Probably not, unfortunately; the hacker is trying to sell the entire data dump to a single buyer, so it's unlikely any of it will be made public.